[POLL] Stop Signs: Safety Aid Or Menace?
There's a new stop sign on Church Street at Rector Street, approved by the Town Council last Monday.
There are new stop signs on Church Street at Rector Street just three days after they were approved by the Town Council. There were already stop signs on Rector Street at that intersection.
"Some people have driven right through it today, but I'm sure they'll get used to it," said Kim Balkcom via email Thursday. "It should also alleviate some of the chaos on Farmers Market days."
Balkcom should know. She lives on Rector at Church.
"I have been talking about it for years, but Mike Kiernan, who lives on Church and has three little ones, was instrumental in making it actually happen," she said. Kiernan lives down the street from Balkcom and happens to be on the Town Council.
While changing a two-way stop to a four-way stop may seem like a no-brainer, it's not without its critics.
Carl Hoyer, former Town Councilor, thinks too many stop signs in town are "indiscriminately installed."
Hoyer lives on Middle Road at Ridgefield Drive, where there is a stop sign and, according to Hoyer, loads of people drive right through it.
When he was on the Town Council, he said, "I was told, ‘We can’t remove stop signs, people are used to them.'”
But for Councilman Kiernan, it comes down to safety. "We have people coming up Church Street bombing up that street," he said at the meeting June 23. "Is it going to slow some of them down? I hope so."
It's not about issuing traffic tickets, he said. "We’re looking to slow people down."
Do stop signs make a difference? Vote in the poll below and leave a Comment.
James E. Smith
6:29 am on Friday, August 3, 2012
Drivers on The Hill appear to treat stop signs more like suggestions rather than commands to stop...especially at the intersection of Proctor, Ledge and Friendship. In a neighborhood having many children you'd think saftey and responsibility would rule the day. Alas, no.
Bruce A Roberts
8:34 am on Friday, August 3, 2012
I was away from EG for 37 years and came back to town too many changes my new
Cedar Avenue EGHS had been replaced by a "new and improved ?" high school
now my new high school has been replaced by a new school, Cole Middle school,
ps Archie Cole was my principal at Eldredge, thank God that did not change, during
the Quonset era Marlborough and Pierce had to be changed too one way as traffic
came through as though they were late for dinner, so hopefully stop signs will hope
slow down those that are prone too running over people as seen in many places.
Tracy Clement
8:45 am on Friday, August 3, 2012
I agree! There are several areas in the Hill where speeding through the neighborhood is a problem. Our children are everywhere! Spring St. also an issue, not only with the blind spot at the intersection of Rector and Spring, but the number of people who speed past Academy Field going 30+ where children frequently cross. The main focus is not having to many stop signs its having a safe neighborhood. If you don't like to having to stop at a stop sign....go another way. On any given day drive through the Hill and see how many homes have either a store bought or hand made "SLOW DOWN" children playing sign. Now that is a sign that is speaking volumes.
Mickey
8:46 am on Friday, August 3, 2012
Isn't it against the law to use a traffic device such as a stop sign, to control the problem of speeders. Shouldn't you address the problem.
Kim Balkcom
12:55 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
Mickey - You are absolutely right! Unfortunately, since the police station moved over to First Avenue, their presence is non-existent in our neighborhood... And speeding is not the only issue - the lack of police patrol has made Academy Field the premier party spot for teens...but that's an entirely different article...
Jill Stange
9:11 am on Friday, August 3, 2012
Perhaps the speed limit in neighborhoods with schools, like Meadowbrook and the Hill, should be 15 mph. It should be posted as well. I don't even know what the speed limit is on the Hill. I thought it was 15 mph, but someone told me it was 20 mph... that is too fast. Also, a few cop cars should slow down the traffic. If people think they are going to get a ticket, they will slow down. Maybe the money raised by the tickets can fund the 15mph signs :).
bwg
11:25 am on Friday, August 3, 2012
I agree with Jill - have an officer posted in the neighborhood every now and then to hand out tickets to drivers that are speeding and ignoring stop signs. We live on Church and have little kids and welcome the stop sign. Drivers cutting through the neighborhood take Church (and Spring) as there were no stop signs on the entirety of Church.
Halben1
11:33 am on Friday, August 3, 2012
Signs and speed limits are a mere bark, they are useless unless you add the BITE. This needs to be done in the form of stepped up patrols and stiffer fines. Raise the fine on moving offences to $200. Slap an incremental fine for speeders at a rate of $50 for every mile over the limit, they'll slow down and stop. Heck, it may even help the budget!
WTF
2:05 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
I was always told " STOP" signs are note meant for nor to be used as speed controls. I had requested the installation of additional stop signs and had to prove it was a safety issue due to sight distances and had to submit a petition. The idea of a councilman living on a street should have no bearing for the need of signage, although it probably does.
NATIVE 1950
3:01 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE SOME OF YOU CITIZEN'S TO VISIT CEDAR AVE. ON ANY GIVEN DAY BETWEEN 7;00 A.M. UNTIL, LET'S SAY, 10;00 A.M. THEN RETURN AROUND 3 P.M. UNTIL SAY, 6.M. SIGN'S, SPEED BUMPS, NO THRU TRAFFIC OR TRUCKING, FLASHING 20 MPH SCHOOL ZONE LIGHTS , MEAN ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO THE PEOPLE THAT TRAVEL THIS ROAD. I'VE ALSO SEEN TEACHER'S AND OTHER PERSONEL DRIVE INTO COLE MIDDLE SCHOOL GOING THE WRONG WAY WHEN ENTERING THE SCHOOL. SO i AGREE, LET'S HAND OUT SOME STIFF TRAFFIC FINES SND ENFORCE THE SIGNS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE.
Angel
7:34 pm on Friday, August 3, 2012
What about the stop sign on South pierce? NOONE stops at that, even moms driving minivans full of kids...
Judy Bailey
3:12 pm on Saturday, August 4, 2012
I was on the Town Council when that stop sign was placed there and my family has been complaining ever since (almost 20 yrs). Safety was the main issue. It was reported by many who lived in the area to be a speeding problem. Right or wrong, it is probably unwise to remove it at this point. I'm sorry to hear that it's being ignored by many.
Elsie
6:00 pm on Saturday, August 4, 2012
Stop signs are not meant for speed control. There is a Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices that you can find online, explaining when and where they should be located. When a sign is unwarrated, drivers are much more likely to miss or ignore it. There are other "traffic calming" devices that are more helpful in reducing speeds through residential neiborhoods, such as curb extensions or chicanes. Visual changes such as lane narrowing, perhaps to add a bike lane, also slow down drivers.
Judy Bailey
8:27 am on Sunday, August 5, 2012
I'm aware of these traffic calming methods. I believe Cedar Ave. is an example. I hope they were effective At the same time that was happening, the western area of Middle Rd. was being considered for the same type of improvements that had just been altered on Cedar. Go figure.