Vote Wisely My Friend
Bob asks, "Don’t you think that we need to make sure that this land of freedoms is able to protect those freedoms for all Americans in the future?"
What will your vote mean 150 years from now? Odd question huh? I ask it because I’ve recently begun re-reading Doris Kearns Goodwin’s "Team of Rivals" which portrays Abraham Lincoln and members of his cabinet. In 1862 (150 years ago) our nation was in the midst of the Civil War. Despite having some argue about state’s rights, it’s hard to dismiss slavery being a major cause of the conflict. What else was going on way back then? In addition to the Civil War, 150 years ago the Sioux Indians were involved in a major uprising that eventually led to their demise (and the largest mass execution ever conducted by the United States). It wasn’t a good time to be a person of color. It wasn’t a great time to be a woman either. In fact, I’ll conclude this paragraph by stating women were not even allowed to vote back in those days. America was certainly a different place in 1862.
Do you ever wonder what America will be like in the future? What will we stand for? Will it still be the great melting pot ‘for the land of the free and the home of the brave’? Those who once advocated for slavery, Indian removal and against Women’s Suffrage–would they be surprised if you could bring them back into the present? Certainly, we have problems with other nations that treat women and minorities as less than. Certainly, we’ve protested against the atrocities perpetrated by others for reasons of religion, land and ethnic cleansing. Yes indeed we’ve come a long way since the days of Abraham Lincoln. We have, haven’t we?
For sure, projecting into the future is difficult. Along with this, we often times get caught up in the immediate. This puts our present needs at the top of most priority lists. Much of this is called for. Some of this is not. History is replete with instances where we might have gotten carried away out of fear (and the immediate). The internment of Japanese Americans at the beginning of World War II comes to mind. But, I digress. Let’s get back to our voting habits.
While we can poke fun at those who supported positions that would seem barbaric today, does it ever enter into our consciousness that some of the stuff we presently advocate for will one day be seen as worthy of criticism? Who are the under-served today? Who are the ridiculed? How do we treat the poor? What of our gay and lesbian population? Are we accepting of diverse cultures and thought? Hopefully, we won’t go back to the times when minorities were marginalized, men made the decisions about women’s rights and beliefs (sometimes superstitions) led many to deny advances in Science/Technology. How we vote and what we support will have a profound effect on the Nation we’ll own years down the road.
For the last decade America has been asked to deal with wars (we still haven’t figured out the Afghanistan mess), a troubled economy and significant turmoil throughout the world. We do many extraordinary things. We’ve contributed billions of dollars for disaster relief efforts, opened our colleges to learners from all over the world and stood up to tyranny when called for (an example being World War II). We also do other things that raise a few eyebrows. When they wipe away the dust from our ancient ruins thousands (hopefully) of years from now how will we be perceived?
So, take care of your wallet and pocketbook. But, don’t you think that we need to make sure that this land of freedoms is able to protect those freedoms for all Americans in the future? As a nation we’ve traveled deep into space, made incredible advances in technology and have formed a governmental system with endless possibilities. Giving tomorrow’s Americans the gifts of this nation will be the most beautiful gift of all. A stable economy is indeed a paramount concern. Welcoming others and caring for those who struggle should be paramount as well.
With all of this said we now spend millions of dollars having politicians bash each other while our schools and roads crumble. We also argue about banners, Christmas Trees and whether or not our President was born in the United States (or is a Muslim) while each day thousands of our young people fight in far-off lands. In addition to this–rather than putting our efforts into prevention and treatment we continue to wage a war against drugs that leads to prison sentences for individuals with addictions and mental health concerns. Heck, we now have a situation where in some parts of the country it is easier for some to purchase a gun then for them to vote. It that what we stand for?
America is a great idea. The idea of America is great because it embraces rather than distances. Our ability to reinvent ourselves is something few nations have been able to do. Why then do we wind up being against so much? Defend our allies and borders, fine. Protect our interests, O.K.. But, every once in a while it is important to check what those interests are. What we choose to support helps to keep the idea of America in the forefront. Ever stable in change–America, forever a work in progress.
Earlier I referred to our 16th President, Abraham Lincoln. Lincoln was by no means a perfect individual. What is incredibly admirable about him however, is his ability to grow, as well as, his talent for making seemingly opposite points of view connect. Lincoln also felt that for America to heal after the Civil War the Southern States needed to be embraced. If he could work with a Team of Rivals – don’t you think we should as well? Vote wisely my friend.
Chuck Newton
8:27 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Bob, you wrote "A stable economy is indeed a paramount concern. Welcoming others and caring for those who struggle should be paramount as well." And therein lies the challenge.
'Paramount' is defined as "of chief concern or importance," and there is only room for one chief concern. When that is the case, we are forced to choose.
Our choices until now have been to have it all, to do it all. And now the piggy bank is getting a bit thin. So, do we listen to those who tells us we can continue to have it all, or those that say we need to manage our resources.
It's not a wartime crisis. Do we rise to the challenge? Are we really willing to sacrifice anything today? Or are we subject to the pandering that typically accompanies the you-can-have-it-all testimony?
This is a much more complicated issue than there is room for in the back-and-forth on Patch. But worthwhile to point out the contradictions.
Vote wisely, yes. But realize we are moving into an age of hard(er) decisions.
Jim Halsband
3:58 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
But we are in a wartime crisis, we are engaged in Iraq and Afghanistan and that is draining our economy of over $1.3 Trillion dollars since 2001. This money would be better spent here in the US, than funneling it into the pockets and coffers of those that profit from war. Bob also mentioned the war on drugs, he didn't mention the costs of that failed experiment based on falsehoods regarding the harm of marijuana. Truth be told, no drug is perfect, certainly not alcohol or pharmaceuticals, but to imprison 800,000 people for pot at costs to the taxpayers in the hundreds of billions, plus the banking industry laundering $500 billion last year for the drug cartels. Wachovia got busted for laundering a few hundred million, no arrests were made, this was in 2010 and they got fined and folded into Wells Fargo. It turns out that this is the only cash banks can get their hands on, so keeping drugs illegal is good business. I can provide the web page to back that up if you wish, not covered in the mainstream media. I would say that this would be considered paramount. You can also find suppressed studies showing that cannabinoids reduce tumors in lung and breast cancers, but flawed studies that call into question IQ levels grab headlines. Suppressing truth is also paramount. I won't even play the "legitimate rape" card, hard to plumb those depths of depraved indifference.
pam
10:27 am on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
When I saw the picture for this article I thought you were going in another direction and I already had my thoughts on what I wanted to say but don't worry I will keep it in context with voting wisely.
The MSM have tried to convince us that the Republicans have a war on women but there are a few things they don't tell you about their own side.
Did you know that the Obama administration pays women staffers and campaigners
less than men?
Did you know about the Obama administrations war on children?
Twenty thousand Muslims will be attending the DNC. Muslims overwhelmingly support democrats. None of whom denounced the Imam who while explaining the need for women to be covered said that you wouldn't leave meat out on the street uncovered lest the dogs attack it. Or what about the Imam in Boston who can't decide whether gays should be burned or thrown from a high place but either way he does think they are criminals. Now I don't think that all Muslims believe this (many do) but even the ones who don't never denounce the mysogynistic, homophobic Imam's who are their leaders. With the narrative the MSM is trying to suggest wouldn't you think they would support the Republican's?
Yes vote wisely and don't listen to the MSM. They have their own agenda and only tell half the story.
KK
4:39 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
I did read on some fringe websites that twenty thousand Muslims will be attending the DNC. Of course such a statment made me curious. Having been to a convention many years ago in Chicago I knew that 20000 people from one group is highly unlikely.
I checked out the information from the convention organizers online and it says nothing about a group of Muslims opening the convention. iIt says that the kickoff event is CarolinFest 2012 in Uptown Charlotte. It is a family friendly event.
It also says , "Conventions have traditionally been open only to delegates, credentialed media and elected officials". Obama is opening up his acceptance speech to the public and it will be the Bank America Stadium and you do need tickets to that but that is on Day 4 of the DNC.
Further more, I checked to see how many people fit in Time Warner Cable Arena where the DNC will hold the opening of the convention. The maximum number that will fit is 20,000. So, if, the Muslims take up 20,000 of those places, where will the delegates fit?
Perhaps this Muslim group is meeting somewhere in Charlotte at the same time as the DNC but is not sponsored at all by the DNC? That is not the same as attending the convention. Did you get this information on Fox News by any chance?
housewife in EG
1:38 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Yes Pam, righto. Romney/Ryan 2012
Jim Halsband
3:21 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
150 years from now certainly will not matter to me, I'll be long gone. A recent poll showed that 3 out of 4 Americans believe that the US will no longer be, an amazing finding! What will it be, a plutocracy, possibly, the corporations have a death grip on the electoral system and that may not change, the Federal Reserve holds sway over that, so maybe this democracy may just be a failed experiment, countries come and countries go, we had a great run, how 'bout that Michael Phelps! The wise vote will be to dismantle the Fed, but no one is campaigning for that.
KK
3:45 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Good thoughts, Bob. I agree with all of what you have written but might have stressed some topics with more emphasis. Sometimes you have to knock people over the head.
pam
5:31 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
The info can be found on BIMA...The Bureau of Indigenous Muslim Affairs. Is that what you are calling a fringe website? I never said the DNC was sponsoring them. My point which you missed was that the MSM are always trying to paint Republicans as racist, homophobic and anti-women. Isn't it strange how a group whose leaders are racist, homophobic, anti-women and (might I add) anti-semetic choose overwhelmingly the Democratic party. Maybe the narrative that the MSM has promoted is false but then sometimes you have to knock people over the head.
Jim Halsband
5:38 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
I only wish it wasn't true or that I was creative enough to make this up, it would make a great Hollywood movie, but the mainstream media is beholden to the banking powers and these type of truths only leak out and rarely upward, but, here is an example of the reality behind the war on drugs.
Since Wachovia Bank (now owned by Wells Fargo) was levied a fine in 2010 (but no criminal charges) for money laundering hundreds of millions (perhaps billions) of illegal drug cartel dollars, there does not appear to be any large crackdown on the practice in the United States, although lip service is often given to coming down hard on money laundering.
According to a 2011 article in AlterNet:
Antonio Maria Costa, former executive director of the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime said in 2008, "there's evidence to suggest that proceeds from drugs and crimes were the only liquid investment capital for banks in trouble of collapsing [during the financial crisis]."
If billions of dollars in drug money rescued banks and other financial institutions from closing down then it's reasonable to argue that the economy itself is addicted to drugs.
As professor Dale Scott noted in his book, American War Machine: Deep Politics; the CIA Global Drug Connection: "A US Senate ... banking committee reportedly estimated that between $500 billion and $1 trillion dollars are laundered each year through banks worldwide, with approximately half of that amount funneled through US Banks."
Jim Halsband
5:47 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Sorry Bob, my comments were neither germane nor pertinent to your nicely stated vote wisely column but it does dovetail into your day job! Vote Chicago style, vote early and vote often!
pam
6:22 pm on Tuesday, August 28, 2012
KK I have done more research and you are right. BIMA is a fringe group...they are way over to the left. Here is more from M.Zuhdi Jasser who is president of the Islamic Forum for Democracy who has concerns about BIMA.
"It is troubling that the Democratic National Convention has decided to promote and lend its name and national political platform to the organizers of the “Jummah at the DNC”. The leaders of this event – Jibril Hough and Imam Siraj Wahhaj as advertised are no moderates. They are radicals. These individuals embrace Islamist supremacy and have demonstrated support for radical ideologies.
A quick Google search by the DNC would have shown them that Hough and Wahhaj are leaders in the separatist American Islamist movement. While they may be able to get a few thousand Muslims to attend the event, they are NOT going to be mainstream Muslims. Most will likely come from Hough and Wahhaj’s radical networks that have long been entrenched in the Charlotte area. Make no mistake they are part of the Islamist movement."
Interesting that he says the DNC has decided to promote and lend it's name to fringe radicals.
KK
3:32 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012
Don't believe everything you read. I found nothing from the DNC that says he is promoting or lending it's name to this group
housewife in EG
2:07 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Robert, I for one believe that it is important to support the constitution. It is important to me if the leader of this nation was born here or embraces the Muslim philosophy and/or apologizes to islamic or Muslim extremists, wants to redisribute wealth,or that we as Americans can be protected by the second amendment, that we can enforce our laws protecting the citizens from the people that deal in illegal drugs. I'm also concerned about protecting our borders and not pandering to criminals. Ever research the violent crime on our border Bob? Yes, this stuff is important to me. I don't need you to share your kool-aid with me. And I will vote wisely thank you.
OldTownie
4:25 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
There are other channels besides FOX, try changing the channel once in a while and take off the tin foil hat.
KK
4:33 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Old Townie, you are very wise. Wish more of this wisdom permeated through our wonderful little town. Please vote to counterbalance the ones wearing the tin foil hats.
jim halsband
4:53 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
i have asked many times for the anonymous commentors to pull back the veil and sign their names to their comments. It is so easy to hide behind a moniker and do a drive-by shooting from their keyboards and escape into the darkness. Bob signs his articles, i speak my mind and express my opinion, freedom of speech. It is too bad everyone doesn't take pride and responsibility for their words, such a shame our society has devolved to this, what is the problem with taking responsibility for your actions, and I'm speaking to both sides of the aisle! Man up! If you want to take a shot at me, fine, but how about to my face not from some shadow. Yahoo comments are so deeply depraved and craven, I refuse to go near it! I expect more from East Greenwich residents! Patch should disallow the anonymous system, sign it or keep your toxic comments to yourselves! Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but enough already, EG Townies, of which I am one, deserve better!
Irene Walls
5:38 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
What constitutes an "EG Townie"?
jim halsband
5:52 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
A "Townie" is one who was born in East Greenwich or born in a neighboring hospital and brought to their parents or guardians East Greenwich residence directly from the hospital, and grew up here. thank you for asking Irene.