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Double Standards?

Here's to you....


Former Providence Police Chief Dean Esserman was forced to resign, the capping moment being a party for underage kids in his yard arranged by his daughter, which he immediately broke up when he returned home. The media were like a thunderstorm, all over this. Politicians yelled for his head as if watching a medieval combat.

on one of his properties, during which a young woman must be hospitalized. Earlier, a senator's son had visited. The governor claims it's a "private family matter," and the media have pretty much left it at that. The politicians are yawning.

Discuss. Unless you're hosting an underage drinking party, of course.

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Heather Tibbitts July 06, 2012 at 03:33 PM
A point of order: The recent US Supreme Court ruling on the AZ Immigration dispute stated "As a general rule, it is not a crime for a removable alien to remain present in the United States." (Justice Kennedy, writing for the majority in the 5-3 vote) They also said federal officials have "broad discretion" in deciding whether or not to arrest and deport persons in the country without valid visas.
Suzanne Arena July 06, 2012 at 03:38 PM
I hadn't seen the newest flip. Playing dumb...what does "alien" mean vs. "illegal alien", I notice there is always a distinction with that sort of stuff and it's not here. I can understand those here on Visa's etc. Sorry, just have to know. thanks HeatherT
Joe Sousa. July 06, 2012 at 03:48 PM
Christopher Fluehr said "Congratulations, Joe. In a thread that is 50% nonsense, your comment is the most idiotic." You lost the argument with the first line. Liberals tend to cast aspersions when they have no facts to back up their dribble.
Joe Sousa. July 06, 2012 at 03:54 PM
A really concerned citizen, what I said, DITO!
Heather Tibbitts July 06, 2012 at 04:02 PM
Non citizens are generally referred to as aliens in our system. One may be a a legal alien on a tourist visa or legal resident alien (ie: has a green card). "Removable alien" is an out of status non-citizen. They may be out of status for a number of reasons. They could have overstayed a tourist or work permit visa, or they may have crossed the border illegally, or they may just be subject to the ineptitude of the Immigration department. I know someone who came over on a fiancee visa, married, and had to get her husband's US Senator involved to fix the Immigration department's paperwork mess. She was technically "out of status" for several months while they tried to get it cleared up.
Joe Sousa. July 06, 2012 at 04:03 PM
This young man will get away with it again . He will feel above the rest, untouchable. In the end like so many the Drugs and Alcohol will catch up. He will have to face the hard truth. He doesn't have that strong moral guidance instilled in to his fiber. Jail may be the turn around or maybe a tragic death. God Bless him with the wisdom his parents failed to instill.
Bill Pett July 06, 2012 at 04:32 PM
"Get real" indeed. A state employee would not be suspended for breaking the social host law. It might be stupid and illegal, but it would not be job-related.
Dark star July 06, 2012 at 08:53 PM
Weiss a liberal sticking up for Esserman another liberal. Esserman was incompetent in RI and has proven his incompetence in CT. He was the "top cop' in PVD and his tacit approval of his underage daughters booze and weed party was the last straw. The rank and file disliked him because of his snotty attitude and lack of actual police experience.
Realistic voter July 06, 2012 at 09:12 PM
Then leave!
Realistic voter July 06, 2012 at 09:19 PM
Joe Sousa "Wiz kid from Tiverton!" Please stop talking like you know these people!!
Joe Sousa. July 07, 2012 at 12:10 AM
Anonymous poster , I know them all to well. Like you they lack the fortitude and dignity required to be accountable.
Jack Baillargeron July 07, 2012 at 01:14 AM
"Like you they lack the fortitude and dignity required to be accountable." I like that Joe, good one lol
Realistic voter July 07, 2012 at 03:50 AM
Wow Joe your just so much better than eveyone, I bet your girlfriend (boyfriend) will laugh when I say that you brag your smarter than everyone!! Am I right?
give me a break July 07, 2012 at 09:47 AM
ok all of you The bottom line is HE's GOV>Goofy son and that makes it ok, wake up fools politician are above the law
Joe Sousa. July 07, 2012 at 10:50 AM
I don't think I know it all. I only go by what I've seen. I have many friends and family that I have watched raise their children . I only relay my observation . Flaming Liberals like the Chafee's seem to have spoiled rotten kids who think the world revolves around them. Just my observation
camille67 July 07, 2012 at 11:01 AM
GOD FORBID any of these "so called" PUBLIC OFFICIALS were African-American!!!! They'd all be tarred and feathered, immediately fired, and maybe hung! The State of RI would definitely call for this kind of treatment rather than deal with the real issue of parents knowingly their underage children were having drinking parties within their responsibiites. That would be the bigger news. Let's address what's on the books as to the law, period.
JB July 07, 2012 at 12:19 PM
My money is on Watson.... again.
English first July 07, 2012 at 02:11 PM
After reading most of your posts I agree that you do think you know it all. Have you ever written(typed) the words "Your are probably correct", or " I have never looked at it that way" ? A discussion can be had without you being correct 100% of the time. Am I correct?
Realistic voter July 07, 2012 at 07:00 PM
So you don't even have CHILDERN but your going to tell everyone how to raise their's LOL You must listen to Rush and drink his kool-aid, because he does the same thing!!! No children but I can tell you how to raise them!! LOL JOKE!!
Robert "Bobby" Giarusso July 07, 2012 at 08:54 PM
Your comment is ridiculous. To call Rhode Islanders a bunch of racists and claim non-Caucasian would be treated differently because of the color of their skin is insulting. I can only hope you don't really believe that public officials of non-European descent found themselves in this situation that they'd be "tarred and feathered, immediately fired, and maybe hung". If its meant to be hyperbole, you should exercise more caution so your comments are not misinterpreted.
Robert "Bobby" Giarusso July 07, 2012 at 08:57 PM
Realistic voter- why don't you stop hiding behind a nickname and post include your name like the rest of us do.
Robert "Bobby" Giarusso July 07, 2012 at 08:58 PM
Mr. Watson didn't have underage children drinking on his property. Mr. Watson didn't hide from the media. Mr. Watson owned up to his mistakes and will face his constitutes in due time.
Ella July 07, 2012 at 10:30 PM
Living in Barrington and seeing first hand the lives lost to underage drinking and the continued level of acceptance and deafening defending of underage drinking you wonder when parents will get the message. Chafed's property was the host house of an underage drinking party where a tragedy was narrowly averted. Parents are responsible for their teens and their property. The fact that the police chief was there and claimed to see no drinking is typical Barrington mentality don't look don't see. Many elected officials in Barrington have kids who party so of course rules are meant to be bent and broken to serve them. Every adult in the community has the responsibility to behave responsibly. chafee's son was arrestedvlast month as well. No harm no foul? I do have grown children, they have never attended a party and have not drank or used drugs. It was a full time job raising them, knowing their friends and never letting them attend ladies. But they were better equipped for college because they had already learned to socialize substance free. Now they tell me how glad they are that I prevented them from falling into that crowd. I also led by my example which is something that all parents should do. Chafee's son has a problem and the governor should be charged with social hosting. I'm still not sure why the parents of the teens attending the party didn't know where their kids were? And pleading the fifth and dumping that young lady off the property is disgraceful.
James Thomas July 07, 2012 at 11:46 PM
J Schaefer, the reason for the increased murder rate in Providence isn't a function of Esserman's removal, it's more a function of a decreased number of officers on duty.
Uncle Ben July 08, 2012 at 12:49 AM
I agree, Mr " Chaffee " should resign and leave the State to the Lt Govenor. till the next election. Only fair.
Jack Baillargeron July 08, 2012 at 01:21 AM
I have to disagree with the James, if you had 50,000 police officers on the streets of providence, there would still be murders. Crimes are committed by criminals who have little fear of the police especially gangs. It is a gang war problem from what the police have been saying since the first one in January. Not much the police can do against that. When one is killed there will always be more to follow, and all the officers in the world will tell you that. Like stopping a lone gunman, this is about the same. You just can't. Well there is no denying Providence police have one hell of a job to do providence, right now it is not because of lack of officers, as the overtime is way down from last year. http://www.golocalprov.com/news/overtime1/ Also for the gang information a good site is this. http://www.nationalgangcenter.gov/Gang-Related-News?st=RI
Memere July 08, 2012 at 01:57 AM
Or maybe he'll become a politician like his dad. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree!!!
Suzanne Arena July 08, 2012 at 02:01 AM
@ Ella, I totally agree...well said! So, what's the solution as this has been in every media source? Do we the people start an online petition and as for his Resignation? Write to the Attorney General. Uprising at State House. Does anyone know the process to unseat by public repeal?
solomon July 08, 2012 at 02:09 AM
Well Said x2. I just started scanning this thread and that is exactly where my thoughts went. The foundation of a good moral compass and a healthy respect for consequence are created.....in my opinion... when a child is 3 to 5 years of age. After that good luck.
Uncle Ben July 08, 2012 at 02:40 AM
if we are going to talk about the criminals, well why not talk about how much the state pays the prison per year per prisoner ? now lets look at someone who took anothers life, well seeing how we don't have the death penalty we pay the prison for another persons life for them to feed, cloth and bathe, and bunk, so what its behind bars, thats what the criminal wanted, he or she was afraid to live on the streets any longer, so they go out and murder someone they hate, Rhode Island, and every state in the country should keep the death penalty and if they don't, it isn't to save antohers life, its to cost the state money and tax payers. The Prisons are some sort of a scam for the states, thats why they are all full to capacity.

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